There's a multi millionaire uncle who told me during crisis, buy Haw Par.. but i didnt follow.
So what did you buy instead of Haw Par? Or paralysed by fear?
If you bought almost anything except S-chip during the crisis, you would have made money.
There's a multi millionaire uncle who told me during crisis, buy Haw Par.. but i didnt follow.
There's a multi millionaire uncle who told me during crisis, buy Haw Par.. but i didnt follow.
I think he got alot of Haw Par.. sibeh song
Nobody buy Haw Par ah?
i believe the way to deal with value trip is to use both TA and FAI used to own it for like 3 years, during my early times as a value investor
however it often trades at a big discount to NAV
inside haw par what I like most is its tiger balm business, the branding and moat is there.
secondly it holds a lot of UOB shares, so its an indirect play on UOB too
on the reason why I sold, is because I got fed up on Mr Wee
they always give 20 cents dividends nia.. profits keep going up but they dun wanna raise dividends, also mr wee has no intention of buying it up.. regardless on how big the discount to book is... so its near impossible to unlock full nav on haw par
3 years holding it, i got out with a small profit and less well learnt on value traps
other value traps are like HL finance, global investment, stamford land, FCL

I used to own it for like 3 years, during my early times as a value investor
however it often trades at a big discount to NAV
inside haw par what I like most is its tiger balm business, the branding and moat is there.
secondly it holds a lot of UOB shares, so its an indirect play on UOB too
on the reason why I sold, is because I got fed up on Mr Wee
they always give 20 cents dividends nia.. profits keep going up but they dun wanna raise dividends, also mr wee has no intention of buying it up.. regardless on how big the discount to book is... so its near impossible to unlock full nav on haw par
3 years holding it, i got out with a small profit and less well learnt on value traps
other value traps are like HL finance, global investment, stamford land, FCL

The management , which is the wee family uses the money to pay themselves big bonuses year after year for doing nothing... Its mostly the same businesses year after year in haw par... They also use the retained earnings to stregthen their control of UOBsince u were value investor back then, shouldn't u view low dividend yield as a positive thing as the company is retaining profits to expand?
Each stock about 10-20% of portfolio.
To date (since 2 Sept 2013), XIRR = 37.9%.
Using NAV method, annualised gain = 31.0%.
1. Fischer
2. Hotung
3. Keppel
4. Memtech
5. Noel
6. TTJ
7. Zagro
Anyway... SGX has a lot of such family own stocks, i have learnt to avoid them then to appreicate them
this portfolio looks interesting.
May I know how you go about evaluating these pennies for your portfolio.
I mainly focus on balance sheet rather than earnings.
Old school value investing - I buy fair companies at wonderful prices.
Strategy is collect dividends (minimise opportunity loss) while waiting for value to unlock.
My criteria:
1. Low Price to NAV/NCAV
2. Net Cash
3. Consistent Dividends
For a long position, these are the deal breakers for me:
1. Price above NAV
2. Net Debt
3. No Dividends
4. S-Chips
Personal View - Investment need not be too complicated. I don't even know how to calculate ROE, DCF, Free Cash Flow etc. Once you protect the downside (strong balance sheet), the upside (earnings/catalyst) will take care of itself.
I mainly focus on balance sheet rather than earnings.
Old school value investing - I buy fair companies at wonderful prices.
Strategy is collect dividends (minimise opportunity loss) while waiting for value to unlock.
My criteria:
1. Low Price to NAV/NCAV
2. Net Cash
3. Consistent Dividends
For a long position, these are the deal breakers for me:
1. Price above NAV
2. Net Debt
3. No Dividends
4. S-Chips
Personal View - Investment need not be too complicated. I don't even know how to calculate ROE, DCF, Free Cash Flow etc. Once you protect the downside (strong balance sheet), the upside (earnings/catalyst) will take care of itself.
Thanks for sharing. I will shadow this portfolio for my learning.
But Noel is going down, will it pick up during festive seasons only.
I mainly focus on balance sheet rather than earnings.
Old school value investing - I buy fair companies at wonderful prices.
Strategy is collect dividends (minimise opportunity loss) while waiting for value to unlock.
My criteria:
1. Low Price to NAV/NCAV
2. Net Cash
3. Consistent Dividends
For a long position, these are the deal breakers for me:
1. Price above NAV
2. Net Debt
3. No Dividends
4. S-Chips
Personal View - Investment need not be too complicated. I don't even know how to calculate ROE, DCF, Free Cash Flow etc. Once you protect the downside (strong balance sheet), the upside (earnings/catalyst) will take care of itself.
The management , which is the wee family uses the money to pay themselves big bonuses year after year for doing nothing... Its mostly the same businesses year after year in haw par... They also use the retained earnings to stregthen their control of UOB
As minority shareholder, i couldnt see how all their moves benefit us.
Anyway... SGX has a lot of such family own stocks, i have learnt to avoid them then to appreicate them
