Recommendations for computer speakers

[86technie]

Logitech Z120 I also used for work and as portable is decent seriously.
Good mids and bass, sound is better than speakers from monitor.

 

[entertaint]

Bought Logitech Z313 as I found it on offer for $39 at Harvey Norman, logitech official store go for $59. 2 year warranty but need RMA yourself. Not a big audio guy so it works fine for me.

*can't seem to attach url nor include it in text but it's just a pic of my setup so meh.

 

[TanKianW]

Bought Logitech Z313 as I found it on offer for $39 at Harvey Norman, logitech official store go for $59. 2 year warranty but need RMA yourself. Not a big audio guy so it works fine for me.

*can't seem to attach url nor include it in text but it's just a pic of my setup so meh.

This one higher end than my kid's Z120!

Sometimes I appreciate the "piak piak" sound, it is a reminder to my kid to turn down the volume!

 

[Shahmatt]

Tried Voicemeeter with a Wharfedale and Display speakers. Happy to report that this works pretty well.

 

[86technie]

Tried Voicemeeter with a Wharfedale and Display speakers. Happy to report that this works pretty well.

Either way subwoofer does not work that way and the sub will be wasted anyway.
Home theater subwoofer is more than just provide bass, wait till one day you have
a 5.1 setup than you know what it's purpose.

Most of the time I do not on the sub as my floorstanding as well as bookshelf speaker
are more than enough.
Subwoofer is to compliment speakers not to use as individual speakers like Voicemeter
etc. nonsense.

Voicemeter is a virtual audio mixer so know the difference and software like this if compare
with actual mixer. Hardware mixer will be better and sound better than voice meter.
Whether anyone want to listen to me is up to you, been in the AV sector for many years.

Basically what you are doing is mixing two sources to output to speaker which is similar to mixer
if wwenze did not explain clearly to you.
Proper way to do such 2.1 setup is
Connect PC to mixer than to subwoofer and from subwoofer to speaker.

Either TRS or XLR connection from mixer balanced input than to output to speaker with XLR connection.
Cost wise is around $1.5k - $2k and this is the proper way to do a 2.1 speaker like what is being shared
but using software mixer emulation.

Those software mixer are to emulate, if you use Yamaha AG06 with the subwoofer than
I have nothing to say.
if anyone don't agree with what I say, you can go to Swee Lee and ask for opinion but
prepare to be bill shock as such equipment are not cheap.

Wwenze is not the subject expert here, there are others.
If you or anyone think he is the only way why not take this discussion off from here just contact
the person.

 

[86technie]

Creative will be announcing their new Creative T60 2.0 speaker.
For those who don't like Logitech speakers, maybe you can consider this.
I don't have any photo or link but it was announced in their facebook.

If you ask me whether will I review this, probably but at price of $120.
Edifier R1280DB will be the better choice than that.
Do take note bass is not everything so having a subwoofer is the not correct approach.

Correct approach for a fuller sound is invest in bookshelf speaker first than subwoofer.

Some bookshelf speaker have sub like Audioengine A1 which I don't mention mainly due to price
of $3XX+.

https://sea.pcmag.com/speakers/39878/audioengine-a1
It's small size but the price is really too high to recommend and if you add a subwoofer easily
can hit $1k.

If you want a small speaker setup don't take up much space than a proper bookshelf speaker
like Edifier R1280DB or R1010BT so either would be better and cheaper than AudioEngine.
Audioengine you can test them at Adelphi AVone including the sub but be prepared to be bill shock
as it won't be cheap.

The T60 I will check if I have opportunity to test or not or probably buy it after testing just sell off.

 

[ragnarok95]

Audioengine A1 + Sub cost less than 1K. S$900 around there.

 

[Shahmatt]

@techidiot Looking forward to your review of the T60. Yes I guess the sub is wasted. But really the sound is quite acceptable to my ear, and it makes the whole experience so much better.

Regarding these display speakers I feel it has amazing clarity and performance for something that is not the main product. Except for the bass frequencies I can hear nearly every sound. Compared to the T3 some human voices are a little weaker (will try to correct with equalizer). Otherwise it is an excellent product and combining with bass really helps it deliver.

 

[86technie]

@techidiot Looking forward to your review of the T60. Yes I guess the sub is wasted. But really the sound is quite acceptable to my ear, and it makes the whole experience so much better.

Regarding these display speakers I feel it has amazing clarity and performance for something that is not the main product. Except for the bass frequencies I can hear nearly every sound. Compared to the T3 some human voices are a little weaker (will try to correct with equalizer). Otherwise it is an excellent product and combining with bass really helps it deliver.

Take note of the size of speaker, speaker inside monitor are not only small but they are
typically low watt.
However low watt speaker like Logitech Z120 2.0 will sound better than speaker from monitor with decent bass.

Is cheap around $19 you can play around instead of EQ the speaker from monitor.

https://www.hachi.tech/intelligent-.../logitech-z120-usb-20-speaker0--0097855074713
Z120 I have one for office and portable use, you be surprise how this cheap little speaker can sound.
The T60 I don't think I can test so soon, if you are interested you can head to
Challenger stores to test.

https://www.hachi.tech/intelligent-living/audio/speakers/creative-t60-20-speaker0--0054651194786

 

[YouHeypiCanLiao]

Which JBLs
305P goes for around $500 per pair

faster rec Rd 1280db



Read HWZ Forum Rules!

 

[wwenze]

faster rec Rd 1280db



Read HWZ Forum Rules!

I had to search back to the first page to understand the context of the quoted text.

Yea, back then I didn't recommend R1280DB because I didn't have enough confidence. But now people have tested R1280T and it looks good. Then I tested R1280DBs and it looks good too. I can't find any review of R1280DB so we'll have to interpolate the data.

So if die die max budget $120 and can use bookshelves, R1280DB is good. I think the new Swan D1100 at $150 might be a good fight for the money tho, who wants to be the guinea pig?

Anyways, R1280DB's selling point (assuming it performs the same as R1280DBs) is that it has a lot of bass at this price point and size for a 2.0, and at least has a somewhat-functioning tweeter (which is rare at this price range). So with the limited budget it prioritized getting the overall sound signature correct first.

 

[DarthGW]

for 2.0, which is better - edifier r1280db or gigaworks t40 series 2?

 

[wwenze]

for 2.0, which is better - edifier r1280db or gigaworks t40 series 2?

The most direct comparison I can find is this:




Ignoring the +-5dB swings because I think that's his mic because even in a room if you measure properly with a calibrated mic you can get accurate measurements above 1kHz... so rather than see which one is closer to 0 you should just compare between the speakers

One clear thing is that R1280T has more bass quantity than T40 II.

To me which one to get is a matter of space. If I don't have space, T40 II still gives usable amount of bass and it also has reasonable bass extension - meaning if you EQ it you still can get enough bass. R1280DBs is if I have enough space but no money to get something better.

 

[Shahmatt]

But don't go for the Edifier T5. The auto standby cannot be turned off. I would try my luck with WH-S8E instead.

Tested the power consumption on standby and idle for WH-S8E

Standby:


Idle:


7.4W vs 10.4W
Not sure why they even bothered.

Also listened to a R1700BT over the weekend. To my crap ears they sounded not much different at the low volumes I listen to. Actually preferred my setup because of the satisfying thuds. Maybe I just like bass too much.

 

[koroshiya8]

Using my T100 for a few weeks now... the price went below $120 recently...

still quite amazed at how good this speaker is. if given a blind test, i dont think a person would guess this is just a $100+ speaker ..

connectivity is rock solid and fast (BT). The bass is also damn decent.
If you go to Youtube and listen to those lossless music, you may feel like a fool if you have used a speaker that cost 10-20x more than this LOL.. just my 2 cents.

 

[wwenze]

Tested the power consumption on standby and idle for WH-S8E

Standby:


Idle:


7.4W vs 10.4W
Not sure why they even bothered.

Also listened to a R1700BT over the weekend. To my crap ears they sounded not much different at the low volumes I listen to. Actually preferred my setup because of the satisfying thuds. Maybe I just like bass too much.

Sometimes the standby is needed for regulatory reasons. The standby of the starhub set up box is also quite useless yet it causes long boot time.

Speaking of bass, now you should have a lot of quantity but the frequency response should be quite messed up, from the frequency "hole" between the satellite and the woofer as well as your room resonance. The latter is probably more noticeable.

Play the below video and watch out for any note that suddenly go loud in volume.



Then fix it with your EQ method of choice. Personally I like doing it at OS level using Equalizer APO with parametric EQ but software built-in EQ works as a quick solution too.

 

[Shahmatt]

Speaking of bass, now you should have a lot of quantity but the frequency response should be quite messed up, from the frequency "hole" between the satellite and the woofer as well as your room resonance. The latter is probably more noticeable.

Play the below video and watch out for any note that suddenly go loud in volume.



Then fix it with your EQ method of choice. Personally I like doing it at OS level using Equalizer APO with parametric EQ but software built-in EQ works as a quick solution too.

Running the satellites alone with the video:
Output is good and flat all the way to 123Hz after which it drops off from 110Hz. If I increase the volume I can hear all the way to the end of the video but the sound is badly distorted after 80Hz.

Sub only:
I can clearly hear all the way from the highest frequency at 261Hz, and this output level is maintained all the way to 98Hz. From 98Hz the output increases, peaks at 65Hz, drops off at 45Hz, and becomes absent from 32Hz. There is rumble from 55Hz.

Surprised to see this sub seems to do well higher than the 200Hz spec. In fact 261Hz and 200Hz output sounds the same to me.

Combined:
I have the sub running at an overall lower volume according to my preference. So overall output drops at 130 to 110Hz around when the switchover happens. Between the individual outputs it more or less sounds flat to my crap ears (maybe I am mistaking higher pitch for output?)

Results:
Will try to use an equalizer to increase the 130 to 98Hz range as maybe it could use a boost. Thanks for the suggestion. Overall relieved to be able to hear the whole range represented.

Oddly when I play 164Hz frequency on the satellite only or the sub only the sound seems to have a slight distortion. Maybe it is a sampling problem?

 

[wwenze]

Oddly when I play 164Hz frequency on the satellite only or the sub only the sound seems to have a slight distortion. Maybe it is a sampling problem?

Does it sound like the sound is coming from somewhere else in the room or from inside your ear? That would be an issue with phase or resonance of your room.

Using multiple speakers circumvents that issue.

 

[We_Generation]

Using my T100 for a few weeks now... the price went below $120 recently...

still quite amazed at how good this speaker is. if given a blind test, i dont think a person would guess this is just a $100+ speaker ..

connectivity is rock solid and fast (BT). The bass is also damn decent.
If you go to Youtube and listen to those lossless music, you may feel like a fool if you have used a speaker that cost 10-20x more than this LOL.. just my 2 cents.

May I ask what's the diff between T60 and T100? I'm trying to figure out the difference. Where did you see the price below 120 for T100?

 

[ragnarok95]

https://sg.creative.com/p/speakers/creative-t60

May I ask what's the diff between T60 and T100? I'm trying to figure out the difference. Where did you see the price below 120 for T100?

Scroll to the bottom there is a comparison between T60 and T100.

If you switch between speaker and headset, T60 is a better bet.