SIMBA Fibre Broadband

[kennethoka]

wow so messy still worth to sign up how is the speed for steaming 4k movies or YouTube?

I cannot tell you whether is it worth to sign up or not because I'm not with Simba, what i said previously is generally same for other ISP.

But for streaming 4K or Youtube, the most important thing to look at is latency not so much on bandwidth. You can have big pipe (high bandwidth) but the latency is high, you also cannot stream video smoothly.

I had did a test for myself, I streamed 1 x 4K HDR in Netflix and 1x 4K HDR 60FPS in Youtube at the same time, the highest bandwidth I hit at a point of time is only 112Mbps but for the rest of the time is hovering 40 - 60 Mbps. You will be fine for 5 to 6 streaming of 4K HDR videos even you are with 500Mbps plan with some other ISP.

like I said latency is the most important one. Imagine you have 2 water pipes. 1 can supply you 1 litre of water every 1 second and other one can supply 20 litre every 30 seconds. So after 1 minutes I get more water from pipe number 1 than pipe number 2 eventhough pipe number 2 is bigger. and If i can drink 50 litre of water in 1 minutes, i will have enough water but if pipe number 2, I will have 10 seconds without water.

 

[DoAsInfinity]

I've tested with dahua NVR. No problem with Simba.

 

[iloveicecream]

Do you guys think Simba will include digital voice in future?

 

[xiaofan]

Do you guys think Simba will include digital voice in future?

Not any time soon since the ONT given does not support digital voice.

But they may support digital voice in the future by upgrading to a better ONT with digital voice support. How far in the future? No idea.

I guess they will support static IPv4 add-on first before looking at digital voice.

 

[OnePunch!!]

I cannot tell you whether is it worth to sign up or not because I'm not with Simba, what i said previously is generally same for other ISP.
But for streaming 4K or Youtube, the most important thing to look at is latency not so much on bandwidth. You can have big pipe (high bandwidth) but the latency is high, you also cannot stream video smoothly.
I had did a test for myself, I streamed 1 x 4K HDR in Netflix and 1x 4K HDR 60FPS in Youtube at the same time, the highest bandwidth I hit at a point of time is only 112Mbps but for the rest of the time is hovering 40 - 60 Mbps. You will be fine for 5 to 6 streaming of 4K HDR videos even you are with 500Mbps plan with some other ISP.
like I said latency is the most important one. Imagine you have 2 water pipes. 1 can supply you 1 litre of water every 1 second and other one can supply 20 litre every 30 seconds. So after 1 minutes I get more water from pipe number 1 than pipe number 2 eventhough pipe number 2 is bigger. and If i can drink 50 litre of water in 1 minutes, i will have enough water but if pipe number 2, I will have 10 seconds without water.

stable to steam 4k movies and YouTube?

 

[lobukong]

I cannot tell you whether is it worth to sign up or not because I'm not with Simba, what i said previously is generally same for other ISP.

But for streaming 4K or Youtube, the most important thing to look at is latency not so much on bandwidth. You can have big pipe (high bandwidth) but the latency is high, you also cannot stream video smoothly.

I had did a test for myself, I streamed 1 x 4K HDR in Netflix and 1x 4K HDR 60FPS in Youtube at the same time, the highest bandwidth I hit at a point of time is only 112Mbps but for the rest of the time is hovering 40 - 60 Mbps. You will be fine for 5 to 6 streaming of 4K HDR videos even you are with 500Mbps plan with some other ISP.

like I said latency is the most important one. Imagine you have 2 water pipes. 1 can supply you 1 litre of water every 1 second and other one can supply 20 litre every 30 seconds. So after 1 minutes I get more water from pipe number 1 than pipe number 2 eventhough pipe number 2 is bigger. and If i can drink 50 litre of water in 1 minutes, i will have enough water but if pipe number 2, I will have 10 seconds without water.

but your pipe 1 is always better than pipe 2 ? pipe1 is lower latency yet 60l/m > pipe2 50l/m (or 40l/m since 20l/30s)?

Then if you want to "benchmark" based on Netflix/youtube/facebook, no ISP will fail as these websites will use CDN. Take a look at this: https://ispspeedindex.netflix.net/country/singapore, every ISP is equal for netflix.

Then, I didn't see any proof of Simba BB is worse in latency? Someone actually tested ping to various websites using Simba or is it just assumed cheaper = worse in latency?

 

[Nakedtoes]

Funny is speedtest got higher for digi Malaysia then local server for wifi..

 

[kennethoka]

but your pipe 1 is always better than pipe 2 ? pipe1 is lower latency yet 60l/m > pipe2 50l/m (or 40l/m since 20l/30s)?

Then if you want to "benchmark" based on Netflix/youtube/facebook, no ISP will fail as these websites will use CDN. Take a look at this: https://ispspeedindex.netflix.net/country/singapore, every ISP is equal for netflix.

Then, I didn't see any proof of Simba BB is worse in latency? Someone actually tested ping to various websites using Simba or is it just assumed cheaper = worse in latency?

why you sound so defensive on SImba. You work for Simba is it. Since when I said Simba latency is no good. because someone is asking whether the Simba speed is good enough for streaming. I only want to tell him/her that don't take speed so seriously, what is important is latency and I don't subscribe to Simba so i cannot tell him/her whether Simba is good for latency or not.

And also CDN this kind of thing is too technical for layman. If you tell them, they also might not know. so no need to make the thread TLDR by explain what is CDN.

 

[kennethoka]

Funny is speedtest got higher for digi Malaysia then local server for wifi..

At least the latency for local server is much lower than the malaysia one. So which means you will get that speed more constant in Singapore than Malaysia.

 

[buttertrade69]

stable to steam 4k movies and YouTube?

I think should be fine because most of the video streaming services are doing data buffering. So the buffering time should be more than enough

but that is also depend on your equipment use also. If you use lousy equipment and cannot stream properly then you blame me how. hahaha.. need to put some exclamation first.

 

[xiaofan]

Then, I didn't see any proof of Simba BB is worse in latency? Someone actually tested ping to various websites using Simba or is it just assumed cheaper = worse in latency?

Real life test results: SIMBA is not bad for Europe/Africa but not good for China.
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/fastest-isp.6996674/page-3#post-151182381

 

[lobukong]

why you sound so defensive on SImba. You work for Simba is it. Since when I said Simba latency is no good. because someone is asking whether the Simba speed is good enough for streaming. I only want to tell him/her that don't take speed so seriously, what is important is latency and I don't subscribe to Simba so i cannot tell him/her whether Simba is good for latency or not.

And also CDN this kind of thing is too technical for layman. If you tell them, they also might not know. so no need to make the thread TLDR by explain what is CDN.

1. As someone mentioned above, latency is not critical for video streaming.
2. There's no proof that simba perform worse in latency than other ISP for *SG* servers.
3. Your analogy doesn't make any sense in math.
4. You throw mud when I asked simple questions?

 

[kennethoka]

Let me show how latency affects video stream.

High latency:

Low latency:

and why you keep defending Simba lantecy while no one says SImba has bad latency.

 

[Nakedtoes]

Morning off peak period speed test wifi..

 

[lobukong]

and why you keep defending Simba lantecy while no one says SImba has bad latency.

so what's the point of your original post?
I reply because I assumed you tried to at least make some sense.
Of course I don't need to reply if you don't want to make sense?

 

[longshine]

not bad..my NLT tech came and check the signal quality and next day ONT insallation. tech brought few set of new routers want to sell me ...but i bought from taobao already at a cheaper more value for money price. So far got 1.6~2.1gbpss for lan desktop. for wirelesss 1.2gbps for android phone and 800+ for iphone. Take note yr hardware all need to support.. like router etc

hi, can I know how long does it take from the date you apply till the date of installation ?

 

[Nakedtoes]

hi, can I know how long does it take from the date you apply till the date of installation ?

The installation slot is choosen by u.. Must see the availability.. U need to know that need 2 days.. 1 day for NLT, next day is auto ONT.. So take note..

 

[longshine]

The installation slot is choosen by u.. Must see the availability.. U need to know that need 2 days.. 1 day for NLT, next day is auto ONT.. So take note..

I see, thank you.

 

[xsoldix]

Simba ONT must be installed by their appointed technician?
can we self collect and install?

 

[ngbc]

Simba ONT must be installed by their appointed technician?
can we self collect and install?

Self collect & install (if SIMBA allowed) also need to pay $50 as it is the cost of ONT.