StarHub MaxInfinity Fiber Optic - Experience

[Gribber]

Tracing route to www.singnet.com.sg [165.21.5.6]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms
2 4 ms 3 ms 3 ms
3 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms
4 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms
5 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 203.117.4.54
6 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms GE-5-1.marina.singnet.com.sg [165.21.12.110]
7 3 ms 3 ms 2 ms 165.21.121.100
8 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms www.singnet.com.sg [165.21.5.6]

Doubt so.

exactly what i meant.

 

[xtwis7]

wow...

go play this game: Human Benchmark - Reaction Time Test

screenshot if you managed to get 16ms or below (no cheating)


objective is to highlight... 10ms - 16ms you can't even feel it. If you could you are totally of a different level which sadly, i can't relate to it.

my apologies then.

No la, I mean significantly slower is based on day-to-day use. Not that I can 'feel' the difference between 5ms. Like my youtube buffering gets stopped more. I'm just basing on my own practical usage.

 

[Gribber]

No la, I mean significantly slower is based on day-to-day use. Not that I can 'feel' the difference between 5ms. Like my youtube buffering gets stopped more. I'm just basing on my own practical usage.

i see.

i always switch to 1080p no stopped buffering though.

and besides, you can always download the youtube clip to watch, much faster but cumbersome that is if the buffering is really annoying you.

 

[xtwis7]

i see.

i always switch to 1080p no stopped buffering though.

and besides, you can always download the youtube clip to watch, much faster but cumbersome that is if the buffering is really annoying you.

I actually use youtube to listen to my songs, more for the audio than the video. Alot of dance tracks aren't really recorded onto proper tracks. Maybe should go figure out some settings of the AC66 that might be indirectly leading to this.

 

[Gribber]

I actually use youtube to listen to my songs, more for the audio than the video. Alot of dance tracks aren't really recorded onto proper tracks. Maybe should go figure out some settings of the AC66 that might be indirectly leading to this.

i am only on N56U

 

[Sadist4life]

I actually use youtube to listen to my songs, more for the audio than the video. Alot of dance tracks aren't really recorded onto proper tracks. Maybe should go figure out some settings of the AC66 that might be indirectly leading to this.

i am only on N56U

and I am on the N66U

16ms = high?

Reminds me of Path of Exile. An almost constant 15ms to the Singapore gateway.

 

[Clock]

guys...

got a super problem here.

D-link or Asus router plug to NC and both routers cannot connect to the internet.

Bypass both routers and plug directly to NC has internet access but very very slow.

Called starhub and they say area no problem.

Living in Sembawang, anyone got the same issue ???

 

[Gribber]

guys...

got a super problem here.

D-link or Asus router plug to NC and both routers cannot connect to the internet.

Bypass both routers and plug directly to NC has internet access but very very slow.

Called starhub and they say area no problem.

Living in Sembawang, anyone got the same issue ???

Plug directly no issue?

You are on Direct ONT right? If not you couldn't hook yourself directly.

ChEck your router(ASUS) CONFIGURATION

 

[wcmonk]

For me the intermittent symptoms disappeared after a while I made that post. Left continuous pings to the SH gateway and my own router running and the problem never resurfaced, so I can't figure out which part of the network is causing it.

Hi i do like to check what is hte SH gateway eh ?? i think i'm also having slow in my network. and i can't load video from youtube now and then, some video can load some cna't haiz

For those who have not enabled IPv6 please do so alr. I suspect is partly cause of this as well.

hi i do like to check how do u enable IPv6 and does it really help??


Tracing route to www.singnet.com.sg [165.21.5.6]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms 182.55.88.3
3 7 ms 9 ms 7 ms 182.55.0.34
4 9 ms 7 ms 11 ms 182.55.0.41
5 9 ms 7 ms 7 ms anatsl10.starhub.net.sg [203.118.7.16]
6 10 ms 8 ms 7 ms 203.117.4.54
7 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms GE-5-1.marina.singnet.com.sg [165.21.12.110]
8 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms 165.21.121.100
9 11 ms 9 ms 9 ms www.singnet.com.sg [165.21.5.6]

Trace complete.

 

[Gribber]

Go to your router and check the WAN IP and gateway assigned to you. I pinged it to check my router's WAN connection to the ISP.



I've got a question, hope you don't mind

Since HTTP uses TCP, which requires sending acknowledgements, will round-trip times shown by ping results be reflective of browsing speed?

if you can ask such question i bet you already know the answer

 

[AceyourMaths]

guys...

got a super problem here.

D-link or Asus router plug to NC and both routers cannot connect to the internet.

Bypass both routers and plug directly to NC has internet access but very very slow.

Called starhub and they say area no problem.

Living in Sembawang, anyone got the same issue ???

Same problem as you. Suddenly cant connect even tho I pay my bills. I live in cck. Now on mobile network...

Just call 1633 and ask them to reset your modem, then it should work again.

 

[OnePunchMan]

technically, you will never get zero unless your connection screw up with AV or FW enabled

speedtest is never accurate to determine your ms anyway

if you think you should be getting zero

then do a tracert www.singnet.com.sg

tell me when you add them all up if you are still able to achieve 0ms

chill la bro, now all super human liao even 1 ms they can also detect.

some devices show 0ms when the ping is below 4ms but it's not speedtest.

 

[OnePunchMan]

It's off-topic, but I just wanted to clarify because I'm not really educated in this field. I used to think that a higher ping causes slowdown, but you said that there'll be no noticeable difference between 16ms and 5ms.

1000ms = 1s

does this answer your question? IMHO, it's hard to
detect anything below 80ms

 

[OnePunchMan]

There's really no need for that. I'm more than capable in Mathematics, thank you very much.

A higher ping means taking more time to send a packet, and with acknowledgements it means that, without taking into account computing speed and with a 16ms ping, it will take a sender at least 16ms to receive a reply? Won't this snowball into a larger delay, and, consequently, result in a slower network speed?

So if ping increases from 5ms to 16ms, won't that reflect a >300% decrease in network speed?

That's the question I'm asking but I don't understand why I'm only getting insults as replies so far.

your end to end system delay does not scale with your transmission delay.. they are stand alone from each other.

A 2ms. -> trasmission 4ms -> B 2ms = 6ms
A 2ms -> transmission 16ms -> B 2ms = 20ms

the reason is u ain't even willing to think..

anyway the above is OT.

btw just notice as someone else posted that now we have symmetry upload on StarHub?

 

[OnePunchMan]

You seem confident on asserting my stupidity.

What is the relevance of the difference between the transmission delay and the device's own delay here? We're on the topic of the difference between pings of 5ms and 16ms with similar hardware.

Look at it this way - in one second, with a delay of 16ms, you can only send 62.5 packets compared to 200 packets with 5ms. That's assuming the host continues sending only after receiving an acknowledgement.

I fail to understand how your equation "1000ms = 1s" answers anything. It doesn't even corroborate with your reply later.

This could have been a peaceful, educating discussion. Instead you have disappointingly resorted to insults.

since u are so educated already why ask?
*last response from me on this matter.*

 

[wcmonk]

a quick check is any one like me still having problem loading youtube random video?

 

[OnePunchMan]

a quick check is any one like me still having problem loading youtube random video?

nope. still having random dc t night thou.

 

[Gribber]

Go to your router and check the WAN IP and gateway assigned to you. I pinged it to check my router's WAN connection to the ISP.



I've got a question, hope you don't mind

Since HTTP uses TCP, which requires sending acknowledgements, will round-trip times shown by ping results be reflective of browsing speed?

It's off-topic, but I just wanted to clarify because I'm not really educated in this field. I used to think that a higher ping causes slowdown, but you said that there'll be no noticeable difference between 16ms and 5ms.

There's really no need for that. I'm more than capable in Mathematics, thank you very much.

A higher ping means taking more time to send a packet, and with acknowledgements it means that, without taking into account computing speed and with a 16ms ping, it will take a sender at least 16ms to receive a reply? Won't this snowball into a larger delay, and, consequently, result in a slower network speed?

So if ping increases from 5ms to 16ms, won't that reflect a >300% decrease in network speed?

That's the question I'm asking but I don't understand why I'm only getting insults as replies so far.

You seem confident on asserting my stupidity.

What is the relevance of the difference between the transmission delay and the device's own delay here? We're on the topic of the difference between pings of 5ms and 16ms with similar hardware.

Look at it this way - in one second, with a delay of 16ms, you can only send 62.5 packets compared to 200 packets with 5ms. That's assuming the host continues sending only after receiving an acknowledgement.

I fail to understand how your equation "1000ms = 1s" answers anything. It doesn't even corroborate with your reply later.

This could have been a peaceful, educating discussion. Instead you have disappointingly resorted to insults.

As I said, I do not have formal education on networking. I don't even have CCNA. All I posted were really just hazarded guesses which I'm really not confident of. I only wanted to seek clarification on from people who know better than I do and were kind enough to do so.

Hi LimCHD,

i will reply it as bluntly as possible hope you don't mind.

Congestion between two points may not be noted when sending a smaller packet (which in this case i am referring it here).

But what you are referring are big packets then in this case, you are not wrong with what you know (additional 5ms x packet size might be significant)


hope this clears your doubts

 

[xtwis7]

a quick check is any one like me still having problem loading youtube random video?

Me. sometimes it loads, even if it loads, the buffering will stop sometimes. Never had to wait for buffering.

 

[wcmonk]

Me. sometimes it loads, even if it loads, the buffering will stop sometimes. Never had to wait for buffering.

i hate to call starhub as it under my dad name and i need to go dig up the account and get his ic and all that things, let wait till after 3 june their maint. and see does it become ok