The Visionaire EC

[cet87]

Thanks for the many interesting and helpful comments.

I guess most people do agree that it is undeveloped now and the more reasons why it'll be developed in the future. But even when considering the master plan, still felt that it is rather lackluster, like not enough things being built.

Amongst the ulu places mentioned, at least jurong have NTU, hospitals and new jurong CBD coming up. Pasir ris at least got chalet and near airport.. SBW really clueless..

At avg of 800k, can even get some older condos

Anw, I may be taking a look at the showflats and see how first lol.

The gov plan a lot of things in the west. There will be JID, JLD , 2nd CBD and more.

Nothing for Sembawang and Yishun. Mainly concentrate on woodlands for the north.

 

[grix17]

Thanks for the many interesting and helpful comments.

I guess most people do agree that it is undeveloped now and the more reasons why it'll be developed in the future. But even when considering the master plan, still felt that it is rather lackluster, like not enough things being built.

Amongst the ulu places mentioned, at least jurong have NTU, hospitals and new jurong CBD coming up. Pasir ris at least got chalet and near airport.. SBW really clueless..

At avg of 800k, can even get some older condos

Anw, I may be taking a look at the showflats and see how first lol.

Frankly, based on what you're looking for in a town, SBW may not be a fit for you. If you look at the promotional videos by the various ECs, you'll see what amenities they are using to attract buyers. I like the more countryside feel to it and that's probably shared by many buyers who choose 'ulu' locations.

 

[asky2505]

I'm considering EC at sembawang and quite intrigued by the discussion here.

Attracted by the price, but when I ask some ppl for opinions, they felt that sembawang is the most ulu, undeveloped and worst district to get. After reading these I kinda start to agree.

When I take a closer look, currently the amenities are really limited. Even with the upcoming canberra integrated hub, i will say the amenities are still pretty lackluster even if compared to other non-matured estates.

Pricing for the HDB not ideal and happy_family also mentioned that even PC pricing isn't good or ideal as compared to EC in boon lay. Furthermore, just opposite the road will have HDB which will be likely to affect EC/PC pricing for that area.

Tho I'm not looking at profitting thr getting an EC. I also don't want to lose $.. otherwise want to upg in future also hard..

PLus point is really the MRT tho, at least go town/city hall is only abt 1/2 hr via MRT. and the NSE seems like a bit of hope for convenience.

Anyone been living in SBW region care to share abit on their opinions?

Actually true pte area (landed) usually don't have many amenities. There are more amenities in hdb cluster. But are you buying a pte property or Bto???

 

[balagan]

Get the best of both "worlds", stay private side and access more amenities & facilities side too...in 2019....lol

 

[PatrickL33]

Here's the link:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1704225683193309/

You'll need a copy of your OTP.

i request to join but how to show otp?

 

[asky2505]

i request to join but how to show otp?

The admin of the pg will send u a pm via messenger to send her a pic of your otp

 

[asky2505]

Get the best of both "worlds", stay private side and access more amenities & facilities side too...in 2019....lol

Hi 5!! Just endure a few yrs and all wishes will come true

 

[YuoriFighter]

The gov plan a lot of things in the west. There will be JID, JLD , 2nd CBD and more.

Nothing for Sembawang and Yishun. Mainly concentrate on woodlands for the north.

Aiyo... Wat do buyer expect?

Shopping mall have, complain small.
Near MRT, complain noise.
Amenities have & coming up, complain not enough.
Many occupants, complain crowded in mrt later, road jam full of cars...

As mentioned by most, V & BS location are already best among the worst(in ECs) .

Want cheap, want this & that very unlikely will happen lah....

If still find it ulu, then think,
Ulu = peaceful.

After long day from work, u want to have busy road, busy malls, crowded makan area meh?

So ulu is good. But its not ulu nowadays.. Few walks juz a mrt ride to places u dun find ulu can leow isnt it.

How many ECs can let u walk short distance to mrt?

 

[YuoriFighter]

Btw why need so many amenities when the landed house behind V & BS there selling food, household items. BTO side too, got mall coming up etc...

Main point is we have our own pool, gym, park, facilities, ktv, bbq， massage pool, kids playground etc...
If u buy V or BS u only need few amenities isnt it?

Those amenities catering more for HBD dwellers... We juz tag along & stay in our peaceful area... Where to find such good deals!!

If wana buy EC, mai tu leow. Buy these bah. Not happy 3years later u can sell & go out complain here dun have this & that lor...

 

[cet87]

Btw why need so many amenities when the landed house behind V & BS there selling food, household items. BTO side too, got mall coming up etc...

Main point is we have our own pool, gym, park, facilities, ktv, bbq， massage pool, kids playground etc...
If u buy V or BS u only need few amenities isnt it?

Those amenities catering more for HBD dwellers... We juz tag along & stay in our peaceful area... Where to find such good deals!!

If wana buy EC, mai tu leow. Buy these bah. Not happy 3years later u can sell & go out complain here dun have this & that lor...

Got KTV room? And massage pool?
Not every EC have this.

 

[cet87]

Aiyo... Wat do buyer expect?

Shopping mall have, complain small.
Near MRT, complain noise.
Amenities have & coming up, complain not enough.
Many occupants, complain crowded in mrt later, road jam full of cars...

As mentioned by most, V & BS location are already best among the worst(in ECs) .

Want cheap, want this & that very unlikely will happen lah....

If still find it ulu, then think,
Ulu = peaceful.

After long day from work, u want to have busy road, busy malls, crowded makan area meh?

So ulu is good. But its not ulu nowadays.. Few walks juz a mrt ride to places u dun find ulu can leow isnt it.

How many ECs can let u walk short distance to mrt?

Quite true. Even the new YCK EC is not near to any mrt. If not driving, must buy escooter.

 

[think]

Lol Woodlands regional center, kind of vague compared to what has been planned for other regions

 

[jcgenesis]

Got KTV room? And massage pool?
Not every EC have this.

yes there is karaoke room in main clubhouse and massage seats in the amazon pool.

 

[cet87]

yes there is karaoke room in main clubhouse and massage seats in the amazon pool.

Jin satki. I know topiary at Sengkang also have KTV room.

 

[YuoriFighter]

Jin satki. I know topiary at Sengkang also have KTV room.

LOL. Nowadays quite a handful of condo have such facilities eg..ktv de...
Those amazon pool, kids pool etc... Btw not massage pool, someting like hydro gym. 60over facilities...

Most importantly its juz downstairs, dont have to travel to public pool... So what V & BS need is only makan place... As said, those will definitely have when time comes...

Oh, plus V 1st year got many free classes eg. Yoga, cooking, singing classes for residence.

 

[YuoriFighter]

Nah.. 60 facilities....
Free yoga, cooking, singing classes for 1st year if not wrong...

S

 

[Dyles]

Btw why need so many amenities when the landed house behind V & BS there selling food, household items. BTO side too, got mall coming up etc...

Main point is we have our own pool, gym, park, facilities, ktv, bbq， massage pool, kids playground etc...
If u buy V or BS u only need few amenities isnt it?

Those amenities catering more for HBD dwellers... We juz tag along & stay in our peaceful area... Where to find such good deals!!

If wana buy EC, mai tu leow. Buy these bah. Not happy 3years later u can sell & go out complain here dun have this & that lor...

my concern is the resale value in the future since it was brought up that even sun plaza PC kinda low pricing. In fact, the new EC psf more ex than the PC. Not sure abt u guys, but when comparing, I felt that the developers priced it on the high side.

Will go down see see first cause got eye mark a stack that I like.

 

[Dyles]

LOL. Nowadays quite a handful of condo have such facilities eg..ktv de...
Those amazon pool, kids pool etc... Btw not massage pool, someting like hydro gym. 60over facilities...

Most importantly its juz downstairs, dont have to travel to public pool... So what V & BS need is only makan place... As said, those will definitely have when time comes...

Oh, plus V 1st year got many free classes eg. Yoga, cooking, singing classes for residence.

The reason why the "lack of amenities" was brought up was because there were discussion on the resale value due to inconvenient location + a very neglected district(or town).

I do realise that EC/Condo have their fair share of facilities, just that people also look at what the district have to offer as well.

 

[derong07]

Here's my update again on some existing EC projects (figures may not be 100% accurate):

Recently Launched (Resale Levy applicable for 2nd-timers):

iNz Residence (CCK): Est TOP Aug 2019
(abt 313 units left = ard 37% sold)
2 Bedroom fr $493k
3 Bedroom fr $666k
3 BR Deluxe fr $709k
3 BR Premium/Superior fr $729k
3 BR CoSpace fr $798k
4 BR Deluxe fr $827k
4 BR Premium fr $886k
Maisonette fully sold!

Northwave (Woodlands): Est. TOP Feb 2019
(abt 265 units left = ard 25% sold)
2 Bedroom fr $542k
3 Bedroom fr $672k
4 Bedroom fr $929k
5 Bedroom fr $1.05m
Penthouse fr $1.3m (last 2 units)

Wandervale (CCK): Est. TOP 1st Qtr 2019
(ard 8 units left = ard 98% sold)
3 Bedroom fully sold!
3 BR Premium fr $811k (last 8 units)
4 Bedroom fully sold!

Westwood Residences (Jurong): Est. TOP Aug 2018
(ard 97 units left = ard 79% sold)
2 Bedroom fully sold!
3 Bedroom fr $757k (last unit)
3 BR Premium fr $758k
4 Bedroom fr $913k
4 BR Premium fr $937k
5 Bedroom fr $1.13m (last 6 units)

The Visionaire (Canberra): Est. TOP Oct 2018
(abt 248 units left = ard 60% sold)
2 Bedroom fr $599k
3 Bedroom fr $683k
3 + study fr $748k
3 BR Premium fr $777k
3BR CoSpace fr $931k
4 Bedroom fr $894k
4BR CoSpace fully sold!

The Brownstone (Canberra): Est. TOP Jan 2018
(ard 81 units left = ard 87% sold)
2 Bedroom fr $627k (last 9 units)
3 Bedroom fr $706k
3 BR Premium fr $776k (last 2 units)
4 Bedroom fully sold!

The Criterion (Yishun): Est. TOP 1Q 2018
(abt 293 units left = ard 41% sold)
2 Bedroom fr $560k
3 Bedroom fr $664k
3 BR Premium fr $740k
4 Bedroom fr $828k
4 BR Premium fr $931k
5 Bedroom fr $1.08m (last 4 units)
Penthouse fully sold!

Signature@Yishun: Est. TOP June 2017
(abt 326 units left = ard 37% sold)
2 Bedroom fr $567k
3 Bedroom fr $698k
3 BR Premium fr $779k
4 Bedroom fr $868k
4 BR Premium fr $964k (last 8 units)

The Vales (Sengkang): Est. TOP April 2017
(abt 31 units left = ard 94% sold)
2 Bedroom fr $631k (last 31 units)
3 Bedroom fully sold!
3 BR Premium fully sold!
4 Bedroom fully sold!
4 BR Premium fully sold!
Maisonette fully sold!


ECs*without*Resale Levy:

Bellewoods (Woodlands): Est. TOP Mid 2017
(abt 44 units left = ard 92% sold)
2 Bedroom fully sold!
3 Bedroom fully sold!
3 BR Premium fr $828k (last 7 units)
3 BR CoSpace fr $950k (last 18 units)
4 Bedroom fr $999k (last 4 units)
4 BR Premium fr $951k (last 11 units)
4 BR CoSpace fr $1.17m (last unit)
5 BR CoSpace fr $1.14m (last 3 units)

Forestville (Woodlands): Attained TOP in Apr'16! (last 2 units left)*
4 Bedroom fr $850k (last unit) => $711 psf!
5 Bedroom fr $1.05m (last unit) => $705psf!

Ecopolitan (Punggol): Attained TOP in Aug'16! (last unit left)
3BR Dual Key #02-32 @$838k => Last unit (Multi-Generational Rule Applies)

 

[YuoriFighter]

my concern is the resale value in the future since it was brought up that even sun plaza PC kinda low pricing. In fact, the new EC psf more ex than the PC. Not sure abt u guys, but when comparing, I felt that the developers priced it on the high side.

Will go down see see first cause got eye mark a stack that I like.

Noted yr concern more on future resale as those PC is selling at EC price.

Maybe they bought much cheaper so they sell at EC price still gain? (anyway if they want sell higher who wana buy if others eligible to get same price for a new property ard the vicinity?)

Maybe they need money urgently selling at lost?
Maybe too competitive in future if still dun sell cheaper now...
Too many maybe...

People had said, EC more for stay than investment, its an upgrade lifestyle & there is always a price for it & now is at discounted price.

So juz go down, see yr desire unit & surroundings there...
Happy, book it & looking foward the excitment to stay in "peaceful" place bah..