TP-Link Archer WiFi 6E/7 Router and Deco WiFi 6E/7 mesh solution

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Starhub now offers one more TP-Link service provider model HB410 (dual 2.5G ports, dual 1G ports, dual band BE6500) at S$120.
HB710 is at S$192 from Starhub.
EB810v is at S$360 from Starhub.

BTW, SingTel provided HB810 and HB611-SGST are also TP-Link Service Provider models.

M1/MR provides TP-Link Archer BE805 is a consumer model. Same for TP-Link Archer BE230.

From the Starhub 5Gbps thread.
More about HB410 and HB710 from Starhub Broadband Router FAQ. I think HB410 at S$120 can be a good mesh node for EB810v users if you want to save a bit of money and if you can use wireless backhaul.
https://www.starhub.com/personal/support/article.html?id=LfNB5odcBt0mTG6Pr7GSB7

Is the TP-Link HB410 a 2.5Gbps router?
Yes, the TP-Link HB410 is a 2.5Gbps router. It has a 2.5Gbps WAN/LAN, 2.5Gbps LAN and 2 x 1Gbps LAN ports.

How does the TP-Link HB410 mesh work?
The TP-Link HB410 uses Easymesh* technology and is compatible with another TP-Link HB410. For the best performance and compatibility, we recommend meshing with another HB410, HB710 or EB810v.

* Mesh nodes that are available from other brands would not be compatible with the TP-Link HB410. We strongly recommend using another TP-Link HB410, TP-Link HB710 or EB810v for the best performance.

I need more coverage on my home network with the TP-Link HB410, what can I do?
You can extend the coverage by purchasing another TP-Link HB410 from StarHub. Additional units can be purchased at $5 per month for HB410 during initial sign-up or cash & carry from our retail store and Hub Troopers at $120 respectively.

Is the TP-Link HB710 a 10Gbps router?
Yes, the TP-Link HB710 is a 10Gbps router. It has a 10Gbps WAN/LAN and 1 x 10Gbps LAN port.

How does the TP-Link HB710 mesh work?
The TP-Link HB710 uses Easymesh* technology and is compatible with another TP-Link HB710. For the best performance and compatibility, we recommend meshing with another HB710 or EB810v.

* Mesh nodes that are available from other brands would not be compatible with the TP-Link HB710. We strongly recommend using another TP-Link HB710 or EB810v for best performance.

I need more coverage on my home network with the TP-Link HB710, what can I do?
You can extend the coverage by purchasing another TP-Link HB710 or EB810v from StarHub. Additional units can be purchased at $8 per month for HB710, $15 per month for EB810v (for 24 months) during initial sign-up or cash & carry from our retail store and Hub Troopers at $192 or $360 respectively.​
 
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There is a report that TP-Link WiFi 7 routers may suddenly lose the 6GHz SSID, today I can reproduce the issue with my Archer BE805 and Acer Swift Go 14 2024 model (Intel Core Ultra 5 125H CPU, Intel BE200NGW based Kille BE1750 WiFi 7 adapter).

Symptoms.
1) Initially I found MLO SSID was quite slow (2.4GHz+6GHz MLO). 5GHz SSID seemed to be normal. 6GHz SSID was about okay but a bit slower than normal.
2) Then 6GHz SSID was gone. MLO SSID was still slow (2.4GHz+5GHz MLO). 5GHz SSID was still normal.

Troubleshooting process:
1) Log in to the router Web GUI and nothing seemed to be wrong.
2) Disable and then enable the WiFi 7 adapter --> this did not help.
3) Reboot the laptop --> 6GHz band came back, MLO SSID (2.4GHz+6GHz) was still slow. 5GHz is also slow.
Please refer to Post #245, the next post. So the Intel BE200 driver may have some issues or there is a bit of compatibility issues with Archer BE805 + Intel BE200.

Edit to add:
4) Reboot the router as well --> 5GHz speed is back to nromal. MLO speed is still slow in most cases.
Please refer to post #246 and #247. Looks like MLO is still not very stable for Archer BE805 + Intel BE200 combination.


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After the reboot of the laptop, slow MLO speed issue is still there, interestingly 5GHz speed is also very slow. 6GHz speed is normal. 2.4GHz speed is also normal (20MHz channel bandwidth).

3m distance from the laptop to the Archer BE805 router.

1) MLO SSID is very slow.
Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     4.23 ms   (jitter: 0.66ms, low: 3.08ms, high: 5.59ms)
    Download:    54.07 Mbps (data used: 77.6 MB)
                229.51 ms   (jitter: 100.67ms, low: 2.81ms, high: 1462.52ms)
      Upload:   301.55 Mbps (data used: 569.3 MB)
                170.06 ms   (jitter: 85.49ms, low: 5.41ms, high: 1080.39ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/e6f37633-0be3-43c0-85d6-c07fc40b74bc

6GHz SSID speed is normal.
Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     6.54 ms   (jitter: 5.35ms, low: 4.33ms, high: 15.12ms)
    Download:  2523.95 Mbps (data used: 3.1 GB)
                 16.17 ms   (jitter: 7.59ms, low: 4.55ms, high: 74.63ms)
      Upload:  1515.31 Mbps (data used: 2.1 GB)
                 20.00 ms   (jitter: 12.70ms, low: 5.70ms, high: 294.04ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/2048eb9e-87a8-42a0-8c9d-e7160404bd93

5GHz SSID -- very slow speed even though the PHY connection speed is okay at 2402Mbps.
Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     3.90 ms   (jitter: 0.35ms, low: 3.70ms, high: 4.61ms)
    Download:   297.47 Mbps (data used: 515.1 MB)
                 43.23 ms   (jitter: 25.40ms, low: 5.29ms, high: 147.94ms)
      Upload:   238.04 Mbps (data used: 409.6 MB)
                217.10 ms   (jitter: 69.57ms, low: 9.20ms, high: 669.17ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/bcbbc8fb-faa5-41be-9d9e-b72d5b150875

2.4GHz SSID speed is normal.
Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     4.41 ms   (jitter: 2.95ms, low: 3.27ms, high: 9.33ms)
    Download:   152.46 Mbps (data used: 74.6 MB)
                 31.63 ms   (jitter: 20.98ms, low: 4.92ms, high: 86.85ms)
      Upload:   100.56 Mbps (data used: 143.7 MB)
                 54.88 ms   (jitter: 12.62ms, low: 24.79ms, high: 185.92ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/7c5ead6e-9df8-4d98-8845-dc7b566c7f20
 
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Finally decided to reboot the Archer BE805 router as well.

MLO speed is still slow.

Carried too many SpeedTest and it reached the limits. 🤣

Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623
[2025-02-14 19:38:20.440] [error] Limit reached:

Speedtest CLI. Too many requests received. To maintain a fair and stable environment, please review and adjust the frequency of your requests.

I have to use iperf3 with Singtel public iperf3 server -- a bit lazy so only tested download speed.

6GHz SSID --> Speed is normal
Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\iperf-3.18-win64> .\iperf3.exe -c speedtest.singnet.com.sg -p 5201 -R -P10
Connecting to host speedtest.singnet.com.sg, port 5201
Reverse mode, remote host speedtest.singnet.com.sg is sending
...
[SUM]   0.00-10.01  sec  3.22 GBytes  2.77 Gbits/sec  712             sender
[SUM]   0.00-10.01  sec  3.22 GBytes  2.76 Gbits/sec                  receiver

iperf Done.

MLO SSID --> a bit slower when using iperf3, 5GHz+6GHz MLO
Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\iperf-3.18-win64> .\iperf3.exe -c speedtest.singnet.com.sg -p 5201 -R -P10
Connecting to host speedtest.singnet.com.sg, port 5201
Reverse mode, remote host speedtest.singnet.com.sg is sending
...
[SUM]   0.00-10.01  sec  1.67 GBytes  1.43 Gbits/sec   53             sender
[SUM]   0.00-10.01  sec  1.66 GBytes  1.43 Gbits/sec                  receiver

iperf Done.

Using OOKla SpeedTest seems to be normal.
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5GHz SSID --> speed is normal
Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\iperf-3.18-win64> .\iperf3.exe -c speedtest.singnet.com.sg -p 5201 -R -P10
Connecting to host speedtest.singnet.com.sg, port 5201
Reverse mode, remote host speedtest.singnet.com.sg is sending
...
[SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.97 GBytes  1.69 Gbits/sec  207             sender
[SUM]   0.00-10.00  sec  1.97 GBytes  1.69 Gbits/sec                  receiver

iperf Done.

2.4GHz SSID, speed is normal.
Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\iperf-3.18-win64> .\iperf3.exe -c speedtest.singnet.com.sg -p 5201 -R -P10
Connecting to host speedtest.singnet.com.sg, port 5201
Reverse mode, remote host speedtest.singnet.com.sg is sending
...
[SUM]   0.00-10.01  sec   218 MBytes   183 Mbits/sec  294             sender
[SUM]   0.00-10.01  sec   211 MBytes   177 Mbits/sec                  receiver

iperf Done.
 
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Redo the test for MLO SSID at 3m distance --> looks like Archer BE805 + Intel BE200 combination is not good for MLO as of now.

1) 5GHz + 6GHz MLO (disable 2.4GHz in Archer BE805 MLO settings to force 5GHz + 6GHz MLO. Speed is now very good.

Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\iperf-3.18-win64> .\iperf3.exe -c speedtest.singnet.com.sg -p 5201 -R -P10
Connecting to host speedtest.singnet.com.sg, port 5201
Reverse mode, remote host speedtest.singnet.com.sg is sending
...
[SUM]   0.00-10.01  sec  3.09 GBytes  2.65 Gbits/sec  1164             sender
[SUM]   0.00-10.01  sec  3.08 GBytes  2.64 Gbits/sec                  receiver

iperf Done.

Unfortunately 5Ghz+6GHz MLO speed is not stable after retest.
OOkla SpeedTest CLI can be used again now.
Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     4.08 ms   (jitter: 0.24ms, low: 3.89ms, high: 4.44ms)
    Download:  2970.89 Mbps (data used: 5.2 GB)
                 14.85 ms   (jitter: 7.21ms, low: 5.41ms, high: 48.19ms)
      Upload:  1639.31 Mbps (data used: 2.9 GB)
                 13.81 ms   (jitter: 6.49ms, low: 3.25ms, high: 56.65ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/8fe50d98-c0a1-4435-a550-b3c79464b600

2. 2.4GHz + 6GHz MLO (this seems to be the default if 2.4GHz/5Ghz/6Ghz are all enabled in MLO setting), still very slow speed.

Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     4.97 ms   (jitter: 0.55ms, low: 3.97ms, high: 5.44ms)
    Download:   136.90 Mbps (data used: 168.4 MB)
                228.06 ms   (jitter: 99.56ms, low: 2.80ms, high: 780.97ms)
      Upload:   357.25 Mbps (data used: 633.9 MB)
                177.28 ms   (jitter: 89.70ms, low: 3.21ms, high: 1350.34ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/b611c371-b2e8-41a6-ad91-8a61fef6e5fc

3. 2.4GHz+5GHz MLO (disable 6GHz in MLO setting), a bit better than 2.4GHz+6GHz but still very slow for download.
Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     3.46 ms   (jitter: 0.35ms, low: 3.12ms, high: 3.90ms)
    Download:    87.70 Mbps (data used: 129.5 MB)
                134.37 ms   (jitter: 85.21ms, low: 2.73ms, high: 697.74ms)
      Upload:  1035.93 Mbps (data used: 1.7 GB)
                 45.08 ms   (jitter: 44.38ms, low: 2.73ms, high: 298.58ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/316ddbf0-4cf9-4a0a-9201-7ec64c031c50

4. 6GHz SSID
Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     4.08 ms   (jitter: 0.24ms, low: 3.89ms, high: 4.44ms)
    Download:  2970.89 Mbps (data used: 5.2 GB)
                 14.85 ms   (jitter: 7.21ms, low: 5.41ms, high: 48.19ms)
      Upload:  1639.31 Mbps (data used: 2.9 GB)
                 13.81 ms   (jitter: 6.49ms, low: 3.25ms, high: 56.65ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/8fe50d98-c0a1-4435-a550-b3c79464b600

5. 5GHz SSID
Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     3.65 ms   (jitter: 0.36ms, low: 3.37ms, high: 4.16ms)
    Download:  1789.31 Mbps (data used: 3.0 GB)
                 15.56 ms   (jitter: 8.07ms, low: 5.67ms, high: 109.33ms)
      Upload:  1709.49 Mbps (data used: 2.4 GB)
                 18.93 ms   (jitter: 14.87ms, low: 3.28ms, high: 252.70ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/d8acb2a5-3ddd-4ddb-b74e-1aa54bb116a9

6. 2.4GHz SSID
Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     6.57 ms   (jitter: 6.85ms, low: 4.26ms, high: 19.35ms)
    Download:   141.60 Mbps (data used: 139.8 MB)
                 46.42 ms   (jitter: 25.79ms, low: 3.92ms, high: 287.12ms)
      Upload:   107.55 Mbps (data used: 134.3 MB)
                143.61 ms   (jitter: 45.32ms, low: 4.12ms, high: 342.25ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/646490d2-f106-4a11-8709-93c733301e24
 

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So far I have not encountered the issues with TP-Link HB710, with the same Acer Swifi Go 14 laptop 2024 model using Intel BE200NGW based Killer BE1750 WiFi 7 adapter.
1) no issues of losing 6GHz band
2) no issues of very low MLO speed. It seems to be always using 5GHz+6GHz MLO (no settings to change the options for MLO).

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Quick tests for the 5GHz+6GHz MLO speed at 3m distance -- quite normal speed.

Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     8.15 ms   (jitter: 2.78ms, low: 6.31ms, high: 13.85ms)
    Download:  2529.45 Mbps (data used: 3.5 GB)
                 21.08 ms   (jitter: 7.52ms, low: 4.67ms, high: 62.42ms)
      Upload:  2052.01 Mbps (data used: 1.5 GB)
                 14.30 ms   (jitter: 5.33ms, low: 6.31ms, high: 67.91ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/36ca64ab-69fe-4aff-8bd2-7241066ea02a

PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     6.15 ms   (jitter: 0.71ms, low: 5.69ms, high: 6.62ms)
    Download:  2658.20 Mbps (data used: 4.8 GB)
                 22.03 ms   (jitter: 7.49ms, low: 4.59ms, high: 47.17ms)
      Upload:  2098.76 Mbps (data used: 3.0 GB)
                 14.79 ms   (jitter: 6.01ms, low: 6.36ms, high: 34.39ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/26b53fe6-a1bc-4edf-9cec-9c0add56791b
 

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Redo the test for MLO SSID at 3m distance --> looks like Archer BE805 + Intel BE200 combination is not good for MLO as of now.

It is the same today with very slow MLO speed. Looks like MLO is broken now with Archer BE800 + Intel BE200.

I guess I will have to wait for next Intel Driver update to see if the issue is resolved or not. TP-Link usually does not update router FW so frequently.
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PHY speed is normal for 5GHz+6GHz MLO, but the real speed is very slow.
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Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     5.46 ms   (jitter: 1.51ms, low: 4.02ms, high: 8.32ms)
    Download:    27.00 Mbps (data used: 43.2 MB)
                305.89 ms   (jitter: 103.83ms, low: 4.70ms, high: 1216.44ms)
      Upload:   252.28 Mbps (data used: 435.4 MB)
                235.68 ms   (jitter: 95.82ms, low: 5.08ms, high: 882.09ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/79a10db6-58b5-4c89-9c08-e880cd9da372
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Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     4.32 ms   (jitter: 0.26ms, low: 3.83ms, high: 4.52ms)
    Download:    26.64 Mbps (data used: 39.9 MB)
                310.29 ms   (jitter: 100.91ms, low: 3.83ms, high: 884.91ms)
      Upload:   161.30 Mbps (data used: 255.5 MB)
                227.52 ms   (jitter: 97.54ms, low: 4.32ms, high: 917.00ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/c12e6237-6379-433b-813c-4da9931e1c87
 
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FW functions of the TP-Link Archer BE805 seems to be fine for most of the users.

1) DNS --> DoT and DoH are supported
2) IPTV/VLAN --> supported if you are using Singtel ONT
3) DDNS --> TP-Link DDNS (need to log in with TP-Link ID), NO-IP and DynDNS are supported.
4) Wireless --> Guest Network and IoT network are supported; MLO is supported (allow the use of 2.4GHz/5GHz/6GH or any of the two bands).
5) USB --> shared stroage or timing machine
6) NAT forwarding --> Port forwarding, Port triggering, uPNP and DMZ are supported
7) Homeshield Basic --> basic security check, basic Parental Control and basic QoS functions are supported
8) Security --> basic firewall and IP/Mac filtering
9) VPN client/server --> Wireguard, OpenVPN and L2CP/IPSec supported
10) IPv6 --> native IPv6 using DHCPv6, IPv6 passthrough, no 6rd support (Singtel 6rd IPv6)
11) Smart devices: Amazon Alexa and Google Asistent supported.
12) System --> automatic FW updates, schedule reboot, LED control, ECO mode, etc.
 

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Interestingly TP-Link lists HB710 in two places.
1) service provider (SGMRP or SGSH)
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/service-provider/wifi-router/hb710/

2) home --> maybe this is a mistake
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/home-networking/wifi-router/hb710/

EB810v, HB810 (SGST), HB611-SGST and HB410 (SGSH) are only listed in Service Provider section.
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/service-provider/wifi-router/eb810v/
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/service-provider/wifi-router/hb810/
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/service-provider/wifi-router/hb611-sgst/ [This one has Singtel logo instead of TP-Link Aginet Logo)
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/service-provider/wifi-router/hb410/
 

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FW functions of the TP-Link HB710 seems to be fine for most of the users. It lacks some features of the EB810v though.

1) DDNS --> TP-Link DDNS (need to log in with TP-Link ID), NO-IP and DynDNS are supported.
2) Wireless --> Guest Network is supported; MLO is supported (not able to select which bands to support, unlike Archer BE805)
3) USB --> USB storage sharing, 3G/4G USB modem (but it is a USB 2.0 port)
4) NAT forwarding --> Port forwarding (virtual server), Port triggering, uPNP and DMZ are supported
5) Security --> basic firewall and IP/Mac filtering, basic parental control
6) VPN server --> OpenVPN and L2CP/IPSec supported, no Wireguard VPN sercer support
7) VPN client --> cannot see VPN client settings

8) IPv6 --> native IPv6 using DHCPv6/SLAAC, no 6rd support (eg: Singtel 6rd IPv6)
9) System --> automatic FW updates, schedule reboot, LED control, traffic statistics, etc
 
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It is the same today with very slow MLO speed. Looks like MLO is broken now with Archer BE800 + Intel BE200.

I guess I will have to wait for next Intel Driver update to see if the issue is resolved or not. TP-Link usually does not update router FW so frequently.

No issues with MLO for the Asus TUF-BE6500 (MLO enabled on the main SSID), using the same laptop with Intel BE200 based WiFi 7 adapter.

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Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     4.28 ms   (jitter: 0.25ms, low: 4.01ms, high: 4.47ms)
    Download:  1815.09 Mbps (data used: 3.2 GB)
                 16.34 ms   (jitter: 6.44ms, low: 5.06ms, high: 60.49ms)
      Upload:  1241.43 Mbps (data used: 1.4 GB)
                 26.56 ms   (jitter: 12.16ms, low: 5.65ms, high: 111.19ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/d9203d99-0c6b-47ab-83eb-90d63e611ae7
 

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FW functions of the TP-Link HB710 seems to be fine for most of the users. It lacks some features of the EB810v though.

1) DDNS --> TP-Link DDNS (need to log in with TP-Link ID), NO-IP and DynDNS are supported.
2) Wireless --> Guest Network is supported; MLO is supported (not able to select which bands to support, unlike Archer BE805)
3) USB --> USB storage sharing, 3G/4G USB modem (but it is a USB 2.0 port)
4) NAT forwarding --> Port forwarding (virtual server), Port triggering, uPNP and DMZ are supported
5) Security --> basic firewall and IP/Mac filtering, basic parental control
6) VPN client/server --> OpenVPN and L2CP/IPSec supported, no Wireguard support
7) IPv6 --> native IPv6 using DHCPv6/SLAAC, no 6rd support (Singtel 6rd IPv6)
8) System --> automatic FW updates, schedule reboot, LED control, traffic statistics, etc

This should be the cheapest 2x 10G port router available right now?

Any limitation with a service provider model? It's not lock to a specific ISP right?

For wireless mesh, do HB710 able to pair with any DECO series (e.g. BE85) or only with specific service provider model?
 

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This should be the cheapest 2x 10G port router available right now?

Any limitation with a service provider model? It's not lock to a specific ISP right?

For wireless mesh, do HB710 able to pair with any DECO series (e.g. BE85) or only with specific service provider model?

Yes, it is probably the cheapest as of now.

HB710 is kind of tied to Starhub/MR but in reality will work with other ISPs as well. As per the reports, users seem to be able to get FW updates when using other ISPs (but I cannot confirm this myself).

TP-Link HB710, EB810v and HB410 (along with SingTel issued HB810 and HB611-SGST) support TP-Link EasyMesh and they can mesh with other TP-Link Archer series routers using TP-Link EasyMesh technology, not Deco Mesh. TP-Link EasyMesh is not compatible with Deco Mesh.
 

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Yes, it is probably the cheapest as of now.

HB710 is kind of tied to Starhub/MR but in reality will work with other ISPs as well. As per the reports, users seem to be able to get FW updates when using other ISPs (but I cannot confirm this myself).

TP-Link HB710, EB810v and HB410 (along with SingTel issued HB810 and HB611-SGST) support TP-Link EasyMesh and they can mesh with other TP-Link Archer series routers using TP-Link EasyMesh technology, not Deco Mesh. TP-Link EasyMesh is not compatible with Deco Mesh.
Is HB810 better than HB710 and be used with M1? HB810 seems to be identical with BE85? Can BE85 firmware be flashed on it?
 

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Is HB810 better than HB710 and be used with M1? HB810 seems to be identical with BE85? Can BE85 firmware be flashed on it?

Of course HB810 is better but much more expensive. HB810 has similar HW spec to EB810v (just one less 2.5G ports).

HB810 FW is only from SingTel website. If you want to use it with M1, you have to manually upgrade FW by downloading the FW from SingTel. TP-Link Singapore website will point you to SingTel website for the FW download.

https://www.singtel.com/personal/su...d-latest-firmware/TP-LINK-HB810-WIFI-7-Router

I do not think you can flash Deco BE85 FW on it and there is no such report as far as I know. Some people claim they have the same HW design but I don't know whether this is true or not. There is another report saying that there is a possible 3rd party OpenWRT FW but I cannot find any information.
 
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Floor plan for reference: 1998 4-room HDB flat, 106 sqm

Router --> RT-AX86U
Router 2 --> HB710 in the above coverage test. Point A is the difficult spot with weak signal since there are two walls between the router and the test device.

Test device: Acer Swift Go 14 2024 model (Intel Core Ultra 5 125H CPU, 16GB, 1TB, Killer BE1750 WiFi 7 adpater based on Intel BE200 chipset).

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Test results using TP-Link Archer BE805 (RT-AX86U is still there) vs RT-AX86U (HB710 is now OFF).

Looks like Archer BE805 5GHz band coverage is similar to RT-AX86U, better than HB710.

Another coverage test using an older Acer Swift 3 laptop 2021 model, with Intel Core i5-1135G7 CPU and Intel AX201 WiFi 6 adapter. The conclusion is still the same that Archer BE805 5GHz band coverage is similar to RT-AX86U on the 5GHz band.

Test Point A with two walls away. The first wall is for sure a thick wall. The second wall is not as thick but still blocks WiFi by quite a bit. This is a year 1998 HDB 4-room flat, 106 sqm.

Archer BE805 5GHz SSID
Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     5.95 ms   (jitter: 14.32ms, low: 4.94ms, high: 60.14ms)
    Download:   311.03 Mbps (data used: 450.1 MB)
                 31.68 ms   (jitter: 25.36ms, low: 2.43ms, high: 512.33ms)
      Upload:   125.14 Mbps (data used: 216.0 MB)
                340.43 ms   (jitter: 71.91ms, low: 3.81ms, high: 794.45ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/63424596-cda6-4c54-9929-f5600d936537

Archer BE805 MLO SSID (connected as 5GHz)
Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     3.55 ms   (jitter: 0.21ms, low: 3.36ms, high: 4.03ms)
    Download:   338.42 Mbps (data used: 575.9 MB)
                 23.03 ms   (jitter: 12.62ms, low: 3.43ms, high: 86.00ms)
      Upload:   142.87 Mbps (data used: 238.1 MB)
                265.59 ms   (jitter: 73.55ms, low: 10.71ms, high: 510.10ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/efd13c51-0a68-44f0-bbae-35702251530e

Archer BE805 2.4GHz SSID
Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     3.72 ms   (jitter: 2.98ms, low: 2.50ms, high: 10.97ms)
    Download:    94.09 Mbps (data used: 89.3 MB)
                 95.16 ms   (jitter: 50.34ms, low: 4.96ms, high: 422.43ms)
      Upload:    35.55 Mbps (data used: 31.1 MB)
                605.74 ms   (jitter: 86.24ms, low: 7.57ms, high: 1293.35ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/89253e8b-9b3a-46f7-a4e9-ababf1d419bf

Asus RT-AX86U 5GHz band for comparsion --> which is about 1m further away than the Archer BE805
Bash:
PS C:\work\speedtest\ookla-speedtest-1.2.0-win64> .\speedtest.exe -s 13623

   Speedtest by Ookla

      Server: Singtel - Singapore (id: 13623)
         ISP: Singtel Fibre
Idle Latency:     2.67 ms   (jitter: 0.68ms, low: 2.35ms, high: 3.27ms)
    Download:   280.91 Mbps (data used: 421.9 MB)
                 24.96 ms   (jitter: 17.30ms, low: 5.28ms, high: 200.37ms)
      Upload:    77.04 Mbps (data used: 83.4 MB)
                273.15 ms   (jitter: 74.42ms, low: 30.29ms, high: 647.80ms)
 Packet Loss:     0.0%
  Result URL: https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/ee9935cf-e5be-48d9-aa9c-feee7a4e84d5
 

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SingTel issued HB611-SGST users, please help here. Thanks.

It is relatively new, so maybe there are not many users now.

The 5ghz setting of the HB611 router can enable up to 80mhz only whereas the 6ghz network can set 160mhz, is that something wrong?

Hmm, that does not match the spec published by TP-Link. You may want to post the screenshot. If you still cannnot get it to work, call Singtel 1688 for support.
https://www.singtel.com/personal/support/broadband/routers-ont/singtel-wifi-7-router-hb611-sgst

Make sure you update the FW version to the latest version as well.
https://www.singtel.com/personal/support/broadband/how-to-download-latest-firmware

HB611-SGST spec:
https://www.tp-link.com/sg/service-provider/wifi-router/hb611-sgst
11 Gbps Tri-Band WiFi 7: 6-stream tri-band WiFi 7
Signal Rate: BE11000,
6 GHz: Up to 5760 Mbps (EHT320)​
5 GHz: Up to 4320 Mbps (EHT240) --> should be okay to set to 160MHz channel​
2.4 GHz: Up to 688 Mbps (EHT40)*​

Strange, just now saw the 160mhz appears for a while, after I set it and saved, it went back to 80mhz when I reopened the setting. Anyway I read online 80mhz is the 'correct' bandwidth for 5ghz network...

Need advises from those using HB611 here, what are your settings and speed?
 
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